Do you still use legacy canvass?

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If so, what features do you use it for? Just wondering. For me switch to the GAL mode was painful, but I finally crossed to the dark side. However I still switch back quite a bit. For me primarily it is usually has to do with group selection. Legacy canvass has a nice selection filter that allows you to choose objects to be selected. Unfortunately that is not replicated in the other modes.

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Yes. I use. Some useful options are available only within Legacy.

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Terse. I can be terse…Once in flight school, I was laconic.

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The list is very long. It can be shorten to “All features which have not been migrated yet to OpenGL/Cairo”.

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I only use it for the spread components option when importing a net list for the first time. I’m using 4.0.7 so I’m missing out on that feature in opengl.

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In a daily build (and forthcoming 5.0): Select a block. Context menu->Select…->Filter Selection. (Edit: replying to the original post.)

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“Legacy” is the only way to make the pads disappear - at least that is true in my Nightly version circa Feb 2017. With GAL canvas, even when I un-check “Pads Front” and “Pads Back” in the “Render” menu, the pads are still displayed.

Dale

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This, too, seems to work well with a recent daily build. So, more good news for the upcoming 5.0…

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This is fixed now :slight_smile:

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Thanks to whoever squashed that bug.

Other than the few situations mentioned in this thread, I have used GAL almost exclusively for a year or so.

Dale

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Examples? (I only count stuff that is not in nightly / not dropped because of new workflow.)

update pcb from schematic in nightly does this automaticly. (since two years.)

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Is the “Break Track” capability on your list? Or has it recently been added to OpenGL? See Moving parts in schematic

Dale

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We had this already:

Did you come across a usecase different than what you described back then? (Or did your tests reveal you can not do something you want to do.)
I am really curios about this. (If we really find a feature missing in nightly open gl then we might want to talk to the developers before legacy is dropped for good.)

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Thanks! That’s good to know, but men it was hidden well. Three steps just to get to the menu.

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I can’t cite examples off the top of my head but I’ll estimate there are a few dozen similar cases where the ergonomics of the KiCAD user interface can be improved. I think most of us eventually learn to live with them. And there are probably folks who believe these annoying quirks are actually charming idiosyncracies.

Dale

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I could not figure out how to fill/refill zones in the new canvas. Had to switch back to legacy to do that. But I really like the OpenGL canvas.

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Shortcut B for zone refill. (Shortcut ? for a list of available shortcuts.)

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If I’m not mistaken, it is the same one in GAL canvass and legacy canvass

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My old notebook doesn’t support to switch to GAL canvas: OpenGL 2.1 or higher is required!
My processor (Core 2 Duo 1.6MHz) only allows to run OpenGL 1.4. So, I’m tied to legacy canvas…
I’m running KiCAD Version: 4.0.7 on Arch Linux, kernel 4.14.6, wxWidgets: Version 3.0.3, and all up-to-date libraries.
:frowning: I have to buy new hardware, but…

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You could try cairo.