Symbol library table confusion (Nightlies)

davidsrsb · December 13, 2016, 8:41am

I suddenly see info boxes warning of the new symbol library table method

As the Symbol Library Table section of the Eeschema help files does not seem to exist, I am confused about what has been done and what to do about it.

keruseykaryu · December 13, 2016, 1:24pm

Read Wayne’s explanation:
https://lists.launchpad.net/kicad-developers/msg26954.html

davidsrsb · December 13, 2016, 1:41pm

Thanks, there must be a lot of non-developers like me using Nightly, not ideal. That message needs to get into the Nightly Eeschema help urgently

bobc · December 13, 2016, 6:00pm

I am confused about what has been done and what to do about it.

Nightlies are for advanced users, who want to experiment with latest features and can self-support. They are not designed for regular users doing run of the mill work.

In fact, I would say regular users using nightlies are crazy! Their choice I guess, but if they are expecting support they should be using a stable release.

davidsrsb · December 13, 2016, 11:31pm

Fortunately, while not a developer, I can self support to some extent and have raised bug reports on Nightly before.
Unfortunately 4.0.4 is now based on a year old code base and is missing some very desirable features like the improved cvPCB search, rounded pads and the STEP interface

davidsrsb · December 14, 2016, 1:32am

The file to be fetched from GitHub seems to be this one:

github.com

KiCad/kicad-library/blob/master/template/sym-lib-table

(sym_lib_table
  (lib (name Altera)(type Legacy)(uri ${KICAD_SYMBOL_DIR}/Altera.lib)(options "")(descr "Legacy Altera symbol library."))
  (lib (name Battery_Management)(type Legacy)(uri ${KICAD_SYMBOL_DIR}/Battery_Management.lib)(options "")(descr "Battery management ICs"))
  (lib (name Bosch)(type Legacy)(uri ${KICAD_SYMBOL_DIR}/Bosch.lib)(options "")(descr "Assorted Bosch ICs"))
  (lib (name Connector)(type Legacy)(uri ${KICAD_SYMBOL_DIR}/Connector.lib)(options "")(descr "Generic connector symbols"))
  (lib (name Decawave)(type Legacy)(uri ${KICAD_SYMBOL_DIR}/Decawave.lib)(options "")(descr "Decawave symbols"))
  (lib (name DSP_Microchip_DSPIC33)(type Legacy)(uri ${KICAD_SYMBOL_DIR}/DSP_Microchip_DSPIC33.lib)(options "")(descr "Microchip DSPIC33"))
  (lib (name Diode)(type Legacy)(uri ${KICAD_SYMBOL_DIR}/Diode.lib)(options "")(descr "Diodes"))
  (lib (name Display)(type Legacy)(uri ${KICAD_SYMBOL_DIR}/Display.lib)(options "")(descr "Display modules"))
  (lib (name ESD_Protection)(type Legacy)(uri ${KICAD_SYMBOL_DIR}/ESD_Protection.lib)(options "")(descr "ESD protection devices"))
  (lib (name Espressif)(type Legacy)(uri ${KICAD_SYMBOL_DIR}/Espressif.lib)(options "")(descr "Assorted Espressif ICs"))
  (lib (name FPGA_Actel)(type Legacy)(uri ${KICAD_SYMBOL_DIR}/FPGA_Actel.lib)(options "")(descr "Actel FPGA symbols"))
  (lib (name Graphic)(type Legacy)(uri ${KICAD_SYMBOL_DIR}/Graphic.lib)(options "")(descr "Graphical symbols"))
  (lib (name LED)(type Legacy)(uri ${KICAD_SYMBOL_DIR}/LED.lib)(options "")(descr "Light Emitting Diode (LED) symbols"))
  (lib (name LEM)(type Legacy)(uri ${KICAD_SYMBOL_DIR}/LEM.lib)(options "")(descr "LEM current sensors"))
  (lib (name Lattice)(type Legacy)(uri ${KICAD_SYMBOL_DIR}/Lattice.lib)(options "")(descr "Assorted Lattice ICs"))
  (lib (name Logic_74xgxx)(type Legacy)(uri ${KICAD_SYMBOL_DIR}/Logic_74xgxx.lib)(options "")(descr "74xgxx logic symbols"))
  (lib (name Logic_74xx)(type Legacy)(uri ${KICAD_SYMBOL_DIR}/Logic_74xx.lib)(options "")(descr "74xx logic symbols"))
  (lib (name Logic_CMOS_4000)(type Legacy)(uri ${KICAD_SYMBOL_DIR}/Logic_CMOS_4000.lib)(options "")(descr "4000 series CMOS logic symbols"))
  (lib (name Logic_CMOS_IEEE)(type Legacy)(uri ${KICAD_SYMBOL_DIR}/Logic_CMOS_IEEE.lib)(options "")(descr "4000 series IEEE logic symbols"))

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Joan_Sparky · December 14, 2016, 4:27pm

Either I’m looking at the wrong mailing list archive or that policy will make this a rather non-trivial task for non-developers:

  > You must be a team member to subscribe to the team mailing list.

I also don’t think the developers want to have several hundred people join their team just to be able to get those updates in their mailbox…

Joan_Sparky · December 14, 2016, 11:16pm

I’m registered over there - no bugreport possible without it - but I don’t think it right to register as ‘dev’ and cause work for real devs as ‘dead weight’ just to be able to get on the mailing list.
There is some blockade in my head about that…

davidsrsb · December 14, 2016, 11:35pm

What we need is to be able to easily receive a copy of the mailing list, no need to be able to post to it, with all the spamming problems

keruseykaryu · December 15, 2016, 5:42am

Anyone interested in current events can browse through the list here: https://lists.launchpad.net/kicad-developers/date.html