Schematic sheets borders & wire bus entries aren't on grid

I sometimes experience problems with getting sheet borders on the grid. I think it is related when you rotate them, though not sure of anything really. After enough dragging and moving I can usually fix it, but I suspect strange forces are at play here.

A similar thing is happening to me with wire-bus entries. The lines and bus are on grid, but the entry… it refuses to go on the line. It eems to be related to where your mouse is when you press m. Like with the sheets, playing around or replace it eventually is the workaround

Kind regards,

Bas

Application: KiCad Schematic Editor x64 on x64

Version: 8.0.5, release build

Libraries:
wxWidgets 3.2.5
FreeType 2.13.2
HarfBuzz 9.0.0
FontConfig 2.14.2
libcurl/8.8.0-DEV Schannel zlib/1.3.1

Platform: Windows 11 (build 26100), 64-bit edition, 64 bit, Little endian, wxMSW
OpenGL: Intel, Intel(R) Iris(R) Xe Graphics, 4.6.0 - Build 31.0.101.5333

Build Info:
Date: Sep 7 2024 02:39:48
wxWidgets: 3.2.5 (wchar_t,wx containers)
Boost: 1.85.0
OCC: 7.8.1
Curl: 8.8.0-DEV
ngspice: 42
Compiler: Visual C++ 1939 without C++ ABI

Build settings:

Would you give it a try with the latest version of the v8 branch ? (v8.0.8) I haven’t see this problem in the new v9, so I assume it got corrected in the mean time.

The latest V8 is:

And you should know to keep your KiCad version current. You’re on this forum since: Joined Sep 11, '20

Grid problems in the schematic editor are becoming less prevalent, as KiCad is making it more difficult to place things off-grid or move it off the grid.

What is the grid you are using? In the schematic editor, a grid of 50mil works best. Don’t even attempt to use a metric grid. (Hmm, KiCad seems to ignore the settings if you attempt to switch to a metric grid in the schematic editor. (which may be a good compromise, I’m not complaining)).

To get stuff on the grid:

  1. Make sure you set a 50mil grid.
  2. Zoom out to see the whole schematic.
  3. Draw a big selection box around the schematic to select everything.
  4. Right click and select: Align Items to Grid from the context menu.

That should put almost everything on the grid again. But if you have symbols or hierarchical sheets which have been designed on some other grid, this does not fix those entities. It can only move them, not modify them.

I am updating to 8.0.8 now. I use standard 50mil grid. I also disabled that TARFU N hot key ofcourse, that one that accidently let you change gridsize.

With sheets I have/had the problem that I was not allowed to resize it to the grid points. I click and hold down on these white boxes with which you can resize things. They sometimes would not want to snap to the grid. So I’d move around the sheet until the problem would eventally go away.

I have this particular problem only with sheets and wire-bus entries.
I vaguely remember that rotating a schematic sheet would also contribute to the problem. I’ll keep on eye on that.

Right click and select: Align Items to Grid from the context menu.

Completely forgot to think about this entirely :man_facepalming:

Anyways my installer is now running. So if it persist, I’ll make a screen recording of it.

Kind regards,

Bas

Once you done that, you can install the V8.0.9 I mentioned earlier over it :slight_smile:

But the 808 is sooo much more iconic! :nerd_face:

are there that many differences between the 808 and 809 ? :upside_down_face:

43 differences, including an align to grid fix for the schematics. See here