Laying out my first board (with KiCAD)

AFAIK:
websites now push content to browsers… that’s how if you stick to a popular thread you will see replies to it below what you have been reading (without the whole page reloading) once they get posted. Your browser wouldn’t know when to add new content, but the webserver does and pushes the new content to you.
For this to work the browser naturally needs to talk to the webserver every now and then…

PS: yes, my firefox is open all the time (24/7) with at the moment 6 windows and 10+ tabs each :wink:

Are you aware of Ctrl+M (Move Exactly) in OpenGL mode? This accomplishes a relative move for any drawn element (footprint, line, text).

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No, not aware yet - nice.
But this won’t help you to place something in a user defined coordinate system (origin different from KiCAD origin).
The only way to do this at the moment is relying on the relative coordinate readout…

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That might be useful. I might try it, otherwise, it’s back to freepcb for me.

Posted from the library where barefooted brats aren’t allowed. (I’m in disguise.)

This is the way the serious users here work, downloading from GitHub is just too slow and eats bandwidth

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Well, they even kick it up a notch I’d say :wink:

https://forum.kicad.info/t/multi-unit-part-with-variety-of-symbols/2647/29?u=joan_sparky

I set it up as DavidRSB suggested. Now I wonder when I’ll get some time to mess with it again. Of course, I still don’t have any data at home till Oct 2. Perhaps I’ll make a page on my web site with things I’ve learned about KiCad… Of course, that will have to wait until I know some things about KiCad.

Posted from a friend’s house where barefooted brats are allowed

Your layout seems to have all the bells and whistles.

That’s just because I’m dingy.

I want to rework part of the schematic a little, but as often happens when you’re excited about something and it’s starting to come together, I have to do something else and it might be a while before I get back to it.

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I think I have it using local copies of the libraries. I guess the easiest way to test is see if KiCad works with internet disconnected.

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(But I’m cheating )

It’s not yet using local copies. If I go to launch PCBnew with no internet connection, I get an error box:

On the "Footprint Libraries Wizard, it keeps the path I put in for “Save a local copy to,” but it switches back to “Files on my computer.” This is what I want, right?

When I was last in this wizard, last time I snuck into the library barefoot, I clicked Next, selected all the boxes and downloaded the works. My folder has 84 subfolders. I’ll spare you the list.

Using KiCad 4.0.2 stable on Windows 10. Trying to be sure it doesn’t run me out of October data in a few hours like it did in September.

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Clearly, it’s not using local libraries: I went to pick an SMD diode footprint and it took a minute to get the list.

I must have gone wrong somewhere.

A picture is worth 1000 words. (But NOTHING beats real hardware!)

See atch.

Dale

Long past the barefoot-and-pregnant stage

Picture worth a few million words there.

I see. This is how it decides where to look for a footprint in the “Buttons_Switches_SMD” library.

I tediously re-arranged all these and… It didn’t stick. Oh, come one, I didn’t click “Cancel,” did I?

I’ll bet this is all cleverly stored in a text file somewhere. I managed to move Air_Coils_SML_NEOSID to the bottom and save it. Seems to have stuck. I’ll click the rest of these to reasonable places later. Out of time for now.

Posted from a friend’s house where barefooted brats are allowed

Pregnancy is highly unlikely, though people often think I’m a lady named Ruby Thomas. That comes with having a first name that sounds like a last name and a last name that sounds like a lady’s first name. Barefoot whenever I can get away with it.

the file you’re looking for is located at:

C:\Users\JohnDoe\AppData\Roaming\kicad\fp-lib-table

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My mind is somewhat fuzzy on this point. You may need to “Save Project” from the top-level KiCAD program window.

Just confirming - in order to work from local libraries (i.e., without an internet connection), he DOES need to get the local library paths listed higher in the library table, than the Git Hub paths. Correct? (I need to refresh my memory on this when I start a new project in a week or two.)

Yeah, I understand. My given name could be (at least in U.S. culture) either male or female.

Dale

Cool. Would have saved me lots of clicking.

Somehow, I only had a few libraries listed local when I got done with all the clicking, so I ran the wizard again and waited for much download, then went in and deleted all the github ones. Then I had to click “Save” and deal with the duplicate a few times.

I’l try it from home in the morning.

Posted from the library where I’m not getting away with cheating this time

This was supposed to be a quick and dirty project. I guess I got the dirty part right

I have used at least half a dozen EDA tools. They all have their shortcomings, quirks, inconsistencies, and aggravating behaviors. KiCAD may be a little worse than the others but it CAN be mastered! At least, I HOPE it can . . . do you think it would help if I scrapped my sneakers?

Dale

KiCad is not as polished as some of the commercial competition, but the forum community is a lot more helpful

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