Kicad very laggy with large 160x160 6-layer board

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When version numbers are important, always include the full version info from: Help / About / Copy Version Info This info is about 20 lines of text and looks like:

Application: KiCad x86_64 on x86_64

Version: 8.99.0-unknown-05b2b3c26e~178~ubuntu20.04.1, release build

Libraries:
	wxWidgets 3.2.2
	FreeType 2.10.1
	HarfBuzz 2.6.4
	FontConfig 2.13.1
	libcurl/7.68.0 OpenSSL/1.1.1f zlib/1.2.11 brotli/1.0.7 libidn2/2.2.0 libpsl/0.21.0 (+libidn2/2.2.0) libssh/0.9.3/openssl/zlib nghttp2/1.40.0 librtmp/2.3

Platform: Linux Mint 20.3, 64 bit, Little endian, wxGTK, X11, xfce, x11

Build Info:
	Date: May  6 2024 18:07:05
	wxWidgets: 3.2.1 (wchar_t,wx containers) GTK+ 3.24
	Boost: 1.71.0
	OCC: 7.6.3
	Curl: 7.68.0
	ngspice: 42
	Compiler: GCC 9.4.0 with C++ ABI 1013

Locale: 
	Lang: en_US
	Enc: UTF-8
	Num: 1.234,5

As I mentioned before, my Nightly is too old because it stopped updating (apparently on 2024-05-06). I do get another message, just telling me the file version is too new:

Error loading PCB ‘/home/paul/downloads/vme-wren.kicad_pcb’. KiCad was unable to open this file because it was created with a more recent version than the one you are running.

To open it you will need to upgrade KiCad to version 8.99 or later (file format dated 20240706 or later).

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If 062db51f24 is the git commit hash (which I think it is), then that version is exactly a month old. That’s a long time in the 8.99 branch - can you try re-opening with a new nightly build please?

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I’ts the one my distro (Ubuntu 24.04) gave me when using the nightly ppa. But i’ll test with the new GPU on monday first before i continue iterating

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When did yo you last update your PC? ( 062db51f24 suggests shortly after 2024-07-16) Just running regular system updates also updates KiCad-Nightly when it’s installed via a PPA.

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Hi Paul,
In case you’re interested, i get regular 8.99 updates on my Mint. This is the latest:

Application: KiCad x86_64 on x86_64

Version: 8.99.0-unknown-3f2b6f7ae0~180~ubuntu22.04.1, release build

Libraries:
	wxWidgets 3.2.1
	FreeType 2.11.1
	HarfBuzz 2.7.4
	FontConfig 2.13.1
	libcurl/7.81.0 OpenSSL/3.0.2 zlib/1.2.11 brotli/1.0.9 zstd/1.4.8 libidn2/2.3.2 libpsl/0.21.0 (+libidn2/2.3.2) libssh/0.9.6/openssl/zlib nghttp2/1.43.0 librtmp/2.3 OpenLDAP/2.5.18

Platform: Linux Mint 21.3, 64 bit, Little endian, wxGTK, X11, cinnamon, x11

Build Info:
	Date: Aug 15 2024 22:07:11
	wxWidgets: 3.2.1 (wchar_t,wx containers) GTK+ 3.24
	Boost: 1.74.0
	OCC: 7.6.3
	Curl: 7.81.0
	ngspice: 42
	Compiler: GCC 11.4.0 with C++ ABI 1016

Locale: 
	Lang: en_AU
	Enc: UTF-8
	Num: 1,234.5
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Yea so the nightly PPA for ubuntu hasn’t completed successfully for a few weeks. Heh

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Allright, got the new GPU and there is no improvement. Infact it seems a little bit worse actually.
Driver works, i can see a big improvement in graphics performance (furmark).
Tried again on my laptop (intel graphics 5500) and performance is smooth as it should be.
So i guess there is something wrong with the amdgpu driver on my machine.

Edit: this person seems to have had the same issue:

also here is my full version info
Application: KiCad PCB Editor x86_64 on x86_64

Version: 8.0.4-8.0.4-0~ubuntu24.04.1, release build

Libraries:
wxWidgets 3.2.4
FreeType 2.13.2
HarfBuzz 8.3.0
FontConfig 2.15.0
libcurl/8.5.0 OpenSSL/3.0.13 zlib/1.3 brotli/1.1.0 zstd/1.5.5 libidn2/2.3.7 libpsl/0.21.2 (+libidn2/2.3.7) libssh/0.10.6/openssl/zlib nghttp2/1.59.0 librtmp/2.3 OpenLDAP/2.6.7

Platform: Ubuntu 24.04 LTS, 64 bit, Little endian, wxGTK, X11, ubuntu, wayland
OpenGL: AMD, AMD Radeon RX 5500 XT (radeonsi, navi14, LLVM 16.0.6, DRM 3.57, 6.8.0-40-generic), 4.6 (Compatibility Profile) Mesa 24.1.0

Build Info:
Date: Jul 17 2024 01:36:30
wxWidgets: 3.2.4 (wchar_t,wx containers) GTK+ 3.24
Boost: 1.83.0
OCC: 7.6.3
Curl: 8.5.0
ngspice: 42
Compiler: GCC 13.2.0 with C++ ABI 1018

Build settings:
and graphics info
Graphics:
Device-1: AMD Navi 14 [Radeon RX 5500/5500M / Pro 5500M] vendor: Gigabyte
driver: amdgpu v: kernel arch: RDNA-1 code: Navi-1x process: TSMC n7 (7nm)
built: 2019-20 pcie: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 ports:
active: DP-3,HDMI-A-1 empty: DP-1,DP-2 bus-ID: 07:00.0 chip-ID: 1002:7340
class-ID: 0300
Display: wayland server: X.org v: 1.21.1.11 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.0
compositor: gnome-shell v: 46.0 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu
unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,radeon,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu
display-ID: 0

API: EGL v: 1.5 hw: drv: amd radeonsi platforms: device: 0 drv: radeonsi
device: 1 drv: swrast surfaceless: drv: radeonsi wayland: drv: radeonsi x11:
drv: radeonsi inactive: gbm
API: OpenGL v: 4.6 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: amd mesa v: 24.1.0 glx-v: 1.4
direct-render: yes renderer: AMD Radeon RX 5500 XT (radeonsi navi14 LLVM
16.0.6 DRM 3.57 6.8.0-40-generic) device-ID: 1002:7340 memory: 3.91 GiB
unified: no display-ID: :0.0
API: Vulkan v: 1.3.275 layers: 3 device: 0 type: discrete-gpu name: AMD
Radeon RX 5500 XT (RADV NAVI14) driver: N/A device-ID: 1002:7340
surfaces: xcb,xlib,wayland device: 1 type: cpu name: llvmpipe (LLVM
17.0.6 256 bits) driver: N/A device-ID: 10005:0000
surfaces: xcb,xlib,wayland

tried x11 and wayland no difference

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