How to make workspace larger?

how can i accommodate a larger dxf import to the edge cut layer than the workspace? i searched for a way to make a larger file but found nothing really

I suggest you start with changing the title to something that describes your problem. I don’t read silly noob questions.

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Noob questions are kinda a point of this forum?

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If you’re not sure where “Page Settings” are, left mouse click “File”.

You also have a similar option for the Schematic Editor.

Not sure why you need to make the PCB workspace larger. The title block isn’t important in the layout display as opposed to the schematic display so it’s in a faded colour. Most people pay no attention to it. By default it’s not printed. After you import a larger edge boundary, you should be able to zoom back.

But if it bothers you that the layout overlaps with the title block, you can choose a large page size.

i just assumed jlc pcb wouldnt like it but there doesnt seem to be a problem, my designs uploaded fine

The drawing sheet isn’t output in the fabrication files.

do i sound like the guy who called up support and asked how he was supposed to get the mouse to go more to the right because he was at the edge of the mouse pad? :smile:

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Haha, that’s a good one, must remember that. :grinning:

In Kicad, it’s a user choice. In fact, there’s a checkbox to output it on all layers:
dwg sheet

I’m old-school enough that I still use a titleblock of sorts, but it’s just the basic facts like who it’s from and contact info and the layer names. Yes, in olden days I’ve seen fabricators mix up my layer stack and once even omit an entire internal layer. We’d user LayerID blocks embedded in a corner of the board to visually inspect they were all there an in the correct order. Those were the days.


Back in the day, a ‘Fab Drawing’ was in the PCB designers domain to produce and these could get quite detailed and tedious:

These days, I don’t much even use the fab dwg layers except to turn them off to avoid the noise and clutter.

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im doing very simple designs of faceplates that are made to use aluminum pcb with black solder mask. the price is very nice and are cut with precision! i figured out a way to cut hinges from flat parts too so now i can make a tilt screen. quality is super for the price!

Yeah but nearly all people wouldn’t want to see the title block on their PCBs from the fab. If you sent one they would probably ask do you know what you’re doing?

For personal / hobbyist type usage, I agree. However for "Professional’ type usage not so much. In my day job, my boards go to a CM and I try to give them the same deliverables I’ve been giving them for ~20 yrs. I only migrated to KiCad about 2 yrs ago and if I do my job, they shouldn’t know or care what tool I use.

I’ve also done moonlighting PCB design for like 40yrs now. I have some old-school clients who want to see old-school deliverable packages from me and this includes a more formal fab drawing. If they pay me to produce one, I deliver it.

If things like titleblocks / drill symbols drawings, stackup detail tables, dimensioned drawings, etc aren’t useful and using them indicates one ‘doesn’t know what they’re doing’, then why does KiCad support them? I submit that these are features any ‘professional’ designer would expect in a tool. Especially the grey beard ‘professional’ type. Again, I’d agree N/A for the personal hobbyist types, and such features ARE somewhat legacy features these days, as are grey-beard PCB designers . . .

I have to look into this. Also acrylic cutting services. Project cases are a bugbear for me. And I don’t want a 3D printer. Although 3D printing can also be ordered online.

I understood this as that you want to import drawing bigger than 4x4m and as I don’t know how to do it I decided to be quiet.
In past KiCad versions you were not able to move absolute origin from top left sheet corner and when entering coordinates by hand you had to enter them as absolute. As most my PCBs are symmetrical so I assumed having origin in PCB center as rationale I decided to redesign sheet frame to have no frame at all. Empty file was replaced by default frame so I left in my file two short lines making a cross at 0,0 position and since my first KiCad PCB I work around 0,0 position.
According to what I have read about KiCad coordinates - they are dword numbers expressed in um so they describe 4.294m x 4.294m workspace. And reading workspace I just was sure that you are speaking about it.
Silly me :frowning: