I browsed the symbol library several time without finding the right one:
4 pins,
pin 1 connected to pin 2
pin 3 connected to pin 4
1 contactor that closes 1/2 and 3/4
frustrating to have the KiCAD footprint identified and not finding the associated symbol. If I select a 2 pin switch, I will have a mismatch with the footprint. 4 pin switch symbols I found donât connect the right pinsâŚ
As you can see, the footprint has only two pad numbers, 1 and 2. Therefore the normal 2-pin symbol is fine for it. The downside is that you need to connect the pads of the same number in the layout with tracks or zones.
If you need 4 independent pins/pads (so that for example you donât have to connect the two internally connected pins with copper on the board) you can use the 4-pin symbol or draw your own symbol and connect only the needed pins in the schematic.
In my opinion this isnât an ideal situation, but itâs how KiCad works.
This is the footprint Iâve been using for similar push buttons. There are two of pins 1 and 2 so both are connected when routing. The symbol is just a generic NO push button switch with pins 1 and 2.
Worked fine, saved me a lot of work. One of the advantages of being naive. Picked the obvious switch, picked an appropriate footprint, and it all worked.
Actually now that I think of it, both pins of the same number were joined by a rats nest line so this would have come to the attention of a human router.
KiCad cannot be changed the way you suggest, because it would break a lot of existing use cases.
For example, what happens if you have an IC with multiple GND pins that need to be connected? You want DRC to flag an error if one or pins are not connected, and you donât want to use the IC as a jumper.
Pretty sure we went over this stuff in another thread, unfortunately people tend to have a singular view of their own use case without considering related issues.
Maybe you didnât read carefully. Piotr suggested interpreting the pads with the same number being internally connected. That wouldnât affect any existing IC footprint (unless made in a nonstandard way, violating datasheet).
Sorry that is nonsense. Not everyone uses the official libraries or their conventions. You canât tell users their existing footprints are wrong âbecause they didnât make a footprint in (your newly defined) standard wayâ. Ridiculous!
Existing behaviour is that KiCad expects all pads with the same number to require external connection. You are proposing to break that behaviour.
Unfortunately, if you donât understand the implications of a proposed change, it will never be adopted by KiCad, and you will be forever wondering why.
Ok, for the benefit of non-mindreaders can you in future write what you mean. I cut the smily because it was not important or relevant to what you wrote.
I think footprints with few pads having the same number and really requiring that pads to be connected externally are extremely rare, but questions about 4 pin tact switches are frequent.
At that moment I canât imagine any such footprint but of course my imagination is limited.
Do you have any example?
No Iâm not. As you can see in the gitlab bug report. Iâm not proposing that KiCad should behave that way.
What is needed/wanted is a way to tell KiCad âthese pins are connected outside the board; connecting them in the board is allowed but not necessaryâ. If you have something constructive to say, you can continue in the given bug report.