Here’s a tweet from someone re-upping their Fusion360 license for 2x the price it was last time. KiCad has its problems, but this isn’t one of them!
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I think KiCad’s price also doubled lately.
At least, donations are going up last time I checked.
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Given the shrinkflation that’s been happening in general, I’m surprised they haven’t used the idea of providing less for the same price, say Fusion180 for what you paid for Fusion360 last time. 
Nope, they just dump half working beta software on the 'net, and by the time it gets debugged and start working properly they pull it out of the “free” version as a big finger in the arse to all their beta testers.
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Can’t see it 'cause I don’t have a twatter account. But I did see a big X flash up. Looks to me like elon stole the logo from the X window project – he’s an idiot.
But back to kicad – worth every penny of a donation to keep the project moving. I was faced with a similar choice after being in the eagle ecosystem for many years. AutoDork bought them and ruined it. Luckily I found kicad. The makers of solidworks are similar pricks. Luckily I found freecad. Windows has annoyed me for decades. Luckily I found linux. Adobe ai and ps replaced with inkscape and gimp. Life is good when you feel in control. 
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Ouch, that’s 3 months salary for a technician in Malaysia
if we say that all idiots, then this statement does not agree with reality))) Linux users are only about 10 percent … the software that you named is either the only or no alternative for Linux, unlike wines … elementary things such as editing dwg without a tambourine are impossible … and the same altium does not work on Linux at all … the second point to consider is that knowing these packages but not knowing altum and solid, you are much less likely to find a normal job … for your own pleasure, you can draw on paper
Hello @m852
There seems to be a translation problem.
@teletypeguy stated one (1) person was, in his opinion, an idiot.
I think the idea is clear that the complete replacement of a solid by a fricade with altium cicada, etc. … en masse or in large numbers is currently impossible for various reasons … like wine with Linux … and it’s not about idiots from solid or autocad)
By default big projects demand MS Office and AutoCad. Never mind that Office365 seems to be examining your sensitive documents in the cloud.
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I have not seen a single commercial program where a cloud office is required … and the presence of AutoCAD …
I am talking about big multi-company projects where the use of a lot of very specific software is defined in the contract.
I don’t consider how a translator works when I post, and I can see how things could get misconstrued. @m852: I was only calling elon musk an idiot. And he is. Everyone seems to think he is some sort of modern genius, but he is just another rich boy feeding his ego. It is the people he hired who have designed the rockets and cars. He has let tesla lose market share by
not updating and innovating, and now he is destroying twitter. Anyway, that was just an opinion I should have not added.
This thread was about FOSS, which I love. Yes, I understand that the world runs on Autodesk, Altium, Solidworks, and all the others, and for you young folks you need to play the game and be competitive. I am old and no longer need to worry about the skill set I show to a prospective employer. I am just super happy that the FOSS community has given us alternatives to finally get off the hamster wheel. And I do enjoy drawing on paper
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FOSS has an advantage when it comes to research also. If your work needs to be, or should be, checked by others there is no closed source program doing some of the work. Too much ‘black box’ in some research papers now.
in such cases, your programs are paid for by the employer, and without their knowledge, you, as a specialist, are not a competitor … although these are isolated cases in my practice, and for 20 years only 10 percent demanded that specific programs be on the list … it’s not the customer that influences more, but the work between departments and developers … let’s say if you work in Kicad and 10 other developers in Altium, then this is a fiasco)))
well, I’m not very young either) the fact is that people expect not a program for students, but a product that is not inferior to others … and it’s not entirely clear what prevents them from achieving this … many projects do not receive funding in the right amount, but here I don’t I see … if this is the only thing, then on the main page you can make an offer and indicate the required amount …
This is true even though both CADs are open source or privative. Nothing to do with this thread.
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Wow, now I’m glad, I’m not the only one in the world with this opinion, I was worried that the problem is with me 
THX
BTW:
The “X” thing is also huge, I hadn’t noticed that before… 
, but damn true.
Some time ago there was a discussion on the EEVblog concerning EDA and schools.
If you compare KiCad with the ubiquitous altium, in the context what would be the best for schools to teach their students…
My answer would be KiCad, (but I know I’m biased )
The reason I think KiCad is “better” in this context is because it is an open source program. Teaching some EDA design skills may be a mandatory part on a school. Some students dislike it and go though it grudgingly. Other students do like it and want to continue as a hobby. With KiCad they can do homework and hobby use as much as they like. With altium they are stuck with whatever that company allows them to do for a short while. And the students who like it will keep up and expand their design skills. And I believe the design skills are much more valuable to a company then being familiar with a particular EDA suite. Heck, the student may solicit for a job for working with Cadence, that Siemens program or one of the other big names. altium is not the only big player in that field.
You want so much that you yourself believe in it)) For reference, in Chinese educational institutions they teach easy ideas)) and even teaching students to work on the fact that the idea is not popular is so-so … In the end, the developer does not give a damn about whether it is open or closed code is much more important whether it works as it should or not … If you wish, you can work in any program as well as drive on a square wheel instead of a round one