If you go to file there is create a new project from template.
I would like to take the opportunity to thank all who provided fantastic help, polite and excellent responses and who got me over bumps on my way to understanding.
As an added note, I avoid forums because all to many times reponses are somewhat dominated by self important gurus. This forum is great.
Again, thank you.
Gary
Well I never knew that existed . . . thank you. Learn something new every day . . .
Are you making progress now ? or still stuck ?
That thing should be changed. I tripped me.
I think Iâm ok nowâŚThanks.
May be the template should not be changed.
But there is a missing template. next to it there should be one for an arduino nano shield. Like there is for other arduino board.
But there isnât, and the template to actually do you own arduino, might not be a very useful thing.
You big guns figure it out. All I know is that there are no instructions on what has to be done to be able to use it. It does not say you have to modify it so you can connect traces. I downloaded it and tried to use it an had no idea why it would not work or how to fix it. A huge waste of time.
Frustrating certainly, but not a waste of time, you learned something along the way
So thatâs what kicad is about?. Frustrate people so they learn something. To some of us time is valuable an efficiency is important. It really made me MAD when I finally learned what the problem was, And I donât like being patronized.
Let me make you learn something else:
Discourse has a ignore user list, so try to be a bit more patient, otherwise next time
maybe your calls for help may be ignored.
See youâŚ
âŚnever!
I understand, it can be frustrating.
But Itâs actually written in the template description, that this template was not to be used to create a Arduino shield.
But there should have been the correct template next to it. And it make more sense to propose a template to do an Arduino shield, rather than to do your own Arduino.
But in your case, the expected use case was to select the symbol from the MCU lib, and use it. And not use a template (actually Iâve discover the template by reading your post).
Also understanding the edge cut layer, is still quite important in Kicad.
After I agree that Kicad should make it easier to modify the librairie footprint, and directly propose you to create a copy of the footprint you want to change in a personal lib, rather than just say that it is write protected.
Finally, you can critic stuff on Kicad. Itâs good but itâs very far from perfect. But please do it be remaining calm and courteous. If not youâll just get ignored.
I didnât see any patronizing going on and to be brutally honest with you . . . you havenât actually learned and understood what the problem was.
The template is designed for a user to create a PCB within the specified template board outline. Itâs not simply a footprint, it is a PCB outline which may also contain footprints.
You arenât trying to create a PCB within the board outline of a Nano, you are trying to create a PCB to plug a Nano into, yes ? so using a template was the wrong thing to do . . . now you know.
I am 82 years old. Time is valuable. I respect other peoples time and I resent others not respecting mine. To pass off my time spent trying to figure out what was gong on as a learning experience shows no respect. I will decide when and what I want to learn. I am not interested in doing all sorts or research to fine out what I was doing wrong.
I gave feedback as to my opinion of that template. And I get a patronizing response. So I know now that feedback and opinion is not appreciate. End of discussion. I donât have time for this.
No, frustration to the user is caused by not understanding basic principles of how a CAD program works when the user wishes to create something.
There are no quick easy ways. No quick fixes.
In the case of Kicad, it is very easy to learn IF and only IF the user has spent many years working with alternative PCB CAD programs, and the same applies for any other PCB CAD program.
If the user is a newbee to PCB CAD design, it takes time, effort and patience, as well as starting from first principles to accomplish results with Kicad, just like any other PCB CAD program.
If youâd started with, and learned, the basics, youâd have known the problem without having to be told.
No, that is their frustration because you are looking for the âquick fixâ.
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