Cloud based KiCad?

Well it greatly depends on the quality of your internet.

Anyway, i think the two people editing at same time, if each person is in their own block. could be made possible by a version control system. This would also handle the file syncing across network… All we really need is version control hooks in file menu…

Hmmm, pls. don’t forget it always starts that way and ends up with you in front of a cloud thing in a few years :wink:

Edit:
BTW: I worked with AutoCAD R10 under DOS, I saw how it turned out…
(I do not mean this with bad intentions)

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In my understanding, a cloud solution for kicad is not the work of an application in a browser or on an organization’s server … But the ability of a group of engineers to track changes in a project in parts with general synchronization, this also applies to libraries … A certain weaver online and version control of changes

Syncthing works really well to keep files in sync between two computers – I highly recommend it. It has replaced dropbox for most of my needs. You can still use Git in parallel to backup and version the files, or collaborate with others, but it is no longer necessary to git commit/pull when moving between machines.

An option! I would suggest that cloud based, multiple user access would be the domain solely of business. Why not make that type of option a paid for service to supplement the coffers of the development team. It’s not NEEDED by the vast majority of individuals using KiCAD.

In theory fine option, but in practice it eats up development resources. So for example in exchange of having this feature in 3 years. Are you wiling to have no bug fixes and no upgrades on KiCad?

So nothing stops you from making a project that does this, you can then put your effort towards this and try to get others onboard. This way the main project does not suffer any delays, but your project also has minimal resources.

The primary problems with this kind of work is that programmers enjoy solving problems not translating code. So it can be hard to find people willing to do this. AI perhaps?

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Because we, the development team, don’t have an entire staff of web developers, sysadmins, and more needed to competently run a cloud service? Offering “free” offerings of cloud software only works for software that is already web/browser/server based.

It will essentially end up becoming an entirely new program with no relation to kicad anyway. At that point, why not just buy Altium 365 or Fusion 360 subscriptions :stuck_out_tongue:

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The lceda is such a product. You can use their cloud service or run your own. It is said that Huawei is using this product. But I personally prefer Kicad.
https://pro.lceda.cn/editor
lceda is also known as EasyEDA, which was started by a Chinese university teacher in 2011:

I really opened up a can ‘o worms here, haha.

More like a cannot o’ worms. :wink:

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Hello,

there is not only the problem of graphics: I once tried the web based version of MPLAB because my company laptop is 100% installation protected.

It worked well until I tried to program a real controller:
Their web app was not able to access a local USB port without a local SW installation…

This is a problem exclusively for your organization and not for programs …

maybe, but what good is a web based SW that still needs local installation ?
When taking the bus I dont bring my own seat. (would be worth a try on some days though)

the local version is your guarantee against loss and disconnection of the Internet … it’s like arguing why I need my network storage at home if there is, for example, a google drive … and when you lose data from the cloud or there is no access, you will understand why it is … this also applies to backups on a working system)))

Ok, if you are using cloud based software to circumvent your IT organizations policies then there is 2 problems.

  1. Either your IT is stupid or they are legal obligated to monitor things. If they are legally obligated to monitor things then, you may be breaking the law. This can be really bad for you.

    If they are stupid then, well good luck getting anything ever done. Though that also happens.

  2. There are some rather interesting side effects of cloud based software licensing schemes and old laws. For example i have witnessed a situation where a patent application was ultimately declined because somebody used Dropbox. Which ultimately was a reason why the company didn’t get to sell the solution.

my personal opinion is its simply less work to administer a bunch of identical PCs. There are of course exceptions for higher ranks …

Using web based applicatioms is not generally forbidden but simply blocked. Its impossible to tell why one site is dangerous and another not.

LOL, yes obviously its simpler. But then why is the IT needed at all?

My work would also be simpler if i didn’t accept any new tasks. There would be no need to clean or maintain stuff everything that’s done at my workplace could be outsourced. Why is my workplace needed if that were the case?

Anyway computers can olnly be identical if everybody, has:

a) same hardware
b) do exactly the same job, exactly the same way.

Generally the higher a person is in the hierarchy of things the less specialized stuff they need.

Like Autodesk Eagle… it was a good enough software they made it garbage software with the cloud shit.

In fact they made it so awful that they had to kill it now as professional use pretty much stopped since Autodesk implemented all their “fresh” business-ideas.

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It was a good product, weird but solid, and cheap for small businesses like mine.

I have to say that I stuck with the old non autodesk version until recently waiting kicad to become professionally usable and at last now it is (with large room for improvement, but better than old eagle).

Cloud based software is essentially garbage.